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Fly-by-night said:
Well I'll say one thing if brad j could figure out how to fix stupid he would make more money then Bezos does because some of the drivers we got are even to stupid to work at swift
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That's what a work environment like this brings. All the good drivers can get much better gigs than this.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Compensation packages are not equal now. I believe there are 5 wage zones. I agree the wages may only be nominally higher, but I still say they will never be lower than current wages. Your point about give and take is accurate, but without representation it becomes all give and no take for us. It's happening right now as we debate these issues.
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Wages won't go lower because they should be higher already. Our raise was a joke. Look at the industry and what they are making to haul stuff right now. There ain't enough drivers. Because they won't pay to get it done. Plenty of money to pay more to attract more drivers. But the big corporations clearly don't want that. Keep capacity tight and wages low. That's the game right now.
 
troubleman84 said:
You stated that northern makes more. On more than one occasion you how sucker and you get overtime after 8. Down south they I knew OT wasn’t down south but you enlighten me on northern pay difference. Thank you for information. Let’s not get into the different regions pay.
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Bull ::shit:: your let's not. Let's do. And while we are talking about it. Why is it okay for you out west to have a solid pension while there are brothers and sisters that don't ? Why don't you do something about that ? How is it fair that they have lost so much ? And you sit there not having lost a thing and support and defend the people responsible for their loss ?
 
troubleman84 said:
You think I took less but my pay stubs for the amount of work along with amount of etc etc etc I’m sure I’m getting a better deal.
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You are brainwashed. And I don't care how you say it. A 15% cut is less. Funding the pension at 25% is less. And making the same wages as a non union while bragging about the virtue of being union is empty headed. Your union told you it's a good deal and so like a good little sheep you go around telling everyone how good you have it.
 
icuicp said:
And if you chose to leave and go to another Teamster company , how does your time get calculated? From ratification of an agreement or from the beginning of the successful "yes" vote
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Funny thing. Not all Teamster jobs are under the same classifications. Some you continue with everything. Others it is like being a first day employee. Many guys I worked with that left Coca Cola went to Sysco because they could continue pension and so on uninterrupted. You have got to do your research. That isn't as easy to answer as you might think that it should be.

You aren't a teamster in good standing until you have paid dues and you are current on those dues.
 
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upnorth said:
And those drivers who did not support the union should get back pay. Their wages were frozen through no fault of their own. It’s not a “ union benefit”. That’s very disingenuous.
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But everything the union gives them is a benefit. The union told them so. Even if it was theirs to begin with.
 
Stand4afuture said:
The other thing. It's funny how you'll talk :::shit::: about the Teamster's. But non of you have brought up the point that. They're out fighting for the working people with Bernie Sanders. Specially they're trying to protect driver's of all class.
Why hasn't anyone talked about what it takes and it cost tem to be out there fighting for a better future?
I'll ask this again..
What have any of you done to make this industry better?
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Californians and socialism. That's your idea of a better future ?
 
icuicp said:
Thank you for the info ( always ) but you miss what I'm saying...At an established unionized company you don't havevthings going on ( or you are not supposed to ) like XPO has.

A driver hooking his set.
Fueling his tractor.
Loading his trailer.
Filling in for a supervisor.
Doing a city turn.
These are examples of ordinary occurrences at XPO. Unionize a terminal at XPO ( and most of the other terminals are non-union ) and you most likely will have to agree that business as usual will be the law of the land.

In other words , work rules would be whatever company policy is at the time or even if you carry a copy of your contract with you , whatever it says will lead back to the union drivers not doing anything that stops business as usual , right?

This is what UPS Freight , YRC companies , and ABF have been trying to inch towards ( if I am understanding the threads correctly) : utility drivers and blending of job classifications. Blurring the lines and sending the lower paid driver to do the higher paid work.

If this goes in the union's favor ( at XPO ) it will ultimately be a step in the favor of management at the established unionized companies because it makes a case for further tearing down the traditional system they have in place.

I would go so far as to say you can negotiate all you like , but you won't get this regime at XPO to give certain things to you ( and I am guessing it comes from the top )

I say that based on how crazed for EBITDA things have become. When a TM resigns at a nearby terminal and his last OR was 77 before he quit. He was STILL getting blasted on conference calls as if he was a loser.
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Who let you off your leash ? Where has this icuicp been the whole time ? The last point was extremely strong. We think WE have it bad ? Our local management cannot win.
 
sucker666 said:
No coincidence that this all paralleled the decrease in union membership. Xpo is the perfect example of what you spelled out here with the inequity in compensation. The middle class is so focused on issues such as gun rights as an example that they don't see what's happening to the workers rights by the same people they voted for. Bamboozled .
Get informed and get involved in the political spectrum to fight those who are trying feverishly as I write this to take your rights as a worker . While your focused on the headlines they are working at this moment to further diminishing your rights.
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I have brought this up repeatedly. Them union boys get their panties all bunched up when you mention how they voted against their union at the polls. It's more of the do as I say not as I do non sense. They are cutting off their own way of life and defend doing it as a right.
 
highspeeds said:
You are brainwashed. And I don't care how you say it. A 15% cut is less. Funding the pension at 25% is less. And making the same wages as a non union while bragging about the virtue of being union is empty headed. Your union told you it's a good deal and so like a good little sheep you go around telling everyone how good you have it.
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Never said it wasn’t a cut but if I’m bringing home more or on par with your road drivers at a -15% less rate with free healthcare. What does that have to say with the big picture you don’t get.
 
highspeeds said:
Bull :::shit::: your let's not. Let's do. And while we are talking about it. Why is it okay for you out west to have a solid pension while there are brothers and sisters that don't ? Why don't you do something about that ? How is it fair that they have lost so much ? And you sit there not having lost a thing and support and defend the people responsible for their loss ?
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You can’t answer a single question I see. Different supplements ran by local union chapters. They are managing what they receive from companies better than others. They’re not like XPO saying I’m gonna different regions different rates just cause I know which ones will just take it. If you notice each supplement has a vote as well as vote on national contract. If ever put to vote I guarantee it would be to have western states control all of it.
 
highspeeds said:
I have brought this up repeatedly. Them union boys get their panties all bunched up when you mention how they voted against their union at the polls. It's more of the do as I say not as I do non sense. They are cutting off their own way of life and defend doing it as a right.
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I couldn’t agree with you more for some that vote for one party that’s never done nothing for labor and continues to deteriorate labor laws but say they’re union strong.
 
troubleman84 said:
Never said it wasn’t a cut but if I’m bringing home more or on par with your road drivers at a -15% less rate with free healthcare. What does that have to say with the big picture you don’t get.
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What good is your union if the best you can do is no better than what the non unions have ?
 
troubleman84 said:
You still won’t answer question of what has YRC debacle cost america. You throw theory’s out that you can’t back up.
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Holy ::shit::. I asked you a question. If you don't know the answer or don't care, just say that. Asking me my own question back is pretty stupid. You are always saying look at the big picture. What has the YRC situation cost America ? Do you know ? Have you thought about it ?
 
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