Yellow | U.S. Sues YRC Worldwide Freight Units, Alleges Overcharging

Have you ever seen a bad movie with bad acting and bad special effects? It’s so bad of a trainwreck but you can’t stop watching it cause it makes you laugh. That’s what I’m seeing right now.
 
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Hey Ken! Get ahold of Ernie and remind him that the "IBT Concessions Stand" is still open!
We gotta take care of the companies!
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I just love that picture. that should be the IBT letterhead
 
Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the claimed victim is the largest, and most sophisticated buyer of goods, and services on the planet. Would you feel differently if we were talking about a large, profitable corporation making the same dumb mistake over, and over again?
 
Also, I would like to point out that every bill of lading includes a shipper certification. The shipper must certify that the shipment is properly described, this includes the weight!
Not sticking up for anyone here, but you do realize there are shippers out there that cheat on weight, and freight class all the time, and basically get many shipments a year sent free because of missed frt class inspections, or weight corrections.
 
Not sticking up for anyone here, but you do realize there are shippers out there that cheat on weight, and freight class all the time, and basically get many shipments a year sent free because of missed frt class inspections, or weight corrections.

Yes, I do. Given that the shipper certified that the shipment was properly described. And, in the absence of any written agreement to the contrary, any gain derived from correcting a customer supplied description should be seen as fair bounty.
 
According to Rule 23, the Federal Government would have to agree to asking for a class and then have to share the cost and results.
Ok, Thanks for info and maybe other customer's that hear this news maybe will be rechecking their freight charge's too $$$$$$$
 
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Yes, I do. Given that the shipper certified that the shipment was properly described. And, in the absence of any written agreement to the contrary, any gain derived from correcting a customer supplied description should be seen as fair bounty.
Not quite sure I understand what you’re saying....
 
Don't forget that there's a lot of money in "Weighing & Inspection"!


Tariff 100 Item 363 (U.S. Domestic and Cross Border)
RULES, CHARGES AND ACCESSORIAL SERVICES
WEIGHT INSPECTION CHARGE

Inquiry Date: DECEMBER 15 2018
Effective date: MAY 29 2017

(EXCEPTION TO NMF 100 SERIES ITEM 360)

DEFINITION: When carrier believes it is necessary, we will re-weigh a
shipment to determine the actual weight of the shipment.

APPLICATION: A service charge, shown in Table 1 below, will be added to
the invoice if shipment charges increase by $10.00 or more as a result of:


1. Re-weighing the shipment to determine the correct weight.

EXPLANATION of # - When an inspection results in an increase in charges
defined by the symbol # or more (example: $10.00), the charges in Table #1
will apply in addition to all other charges.

NON APPLICATION: The charge in this item will not apply to shipments
that are assessed the charge for the following:

1. Freight Inspection Charge (INSP)
2. Weight Verification Charge (WV)

If shipment charges are increased as a result of the following items,
the charge in this rule does not apply.

1. Extreme Configuration (XCON)
2. Cubic Capacity (CUBC)
3. Full Visible Capacity (FVCS / FVCP)

For definition of terms see item 110.
For explanation of abbreviations and reference marks see item 9999.


TABLE 1

BETWEEN ALL POINTS AND ALL POINTS, EXCEPT AK USA.

Q U A N T I T I E S
TYPE TYPE UNIT OF ACTUAL/
SHIPMENT CHARGE RATE PER MIN MAX MEASURE BILLED NOTES
ALL 33.00 $ SHPT -
ALL 10.00 # SHPT -

TABLE 2

FROM ALL POINTS TO AK USA.

Q U A N T I T I E S
TYPE TYPE UNIT OF ACTUAL/
SHIPMENT CHARGE RATE PER MIN MAX MEASURE BILLED NOTES
ALL 33.00 $ SHPT -
ALL 10.00 # SHPT -


ISSUED BY
Vice President, Finance
10990 Roe Avenue, Overland Park, KS 66211

and



Tariff 100 Item 992 (U.S. Domestic and Cross Border)
RULES, CHARGES AND ACCESSORIAL SERVICES
WEIGHT, DIMENSION OR CUBE VERIFICATION

Inquiry Date: DECEMBER 15 2018
Effective date: JUNE 04 2018

APPLICATION:
When the carrier is requested to use a certified public scale to
reweigh any shipment or vehicle. Charge is assessed to the party
requesting the reweigh.

When the shipper does not provide the weight on the original bill
of lading. When the shipper does not provide freight dimensions or
cube on the original bill of lading for shipments to the domestic ocean
markets of Guam, Hawaii, Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Charge is assessed to the party as designated by the Terms of Payment
on the Bill of Lading.

When a shipment originates from or is destined to a trade show.
Charge is assessed to the party as designated by the Terms of Payment
on the Bill of Lading.

The carrier will weigh or measure shipments when in the possession of
the carrier.

CHARGES
The charge in the following tables apply for this service.


TABLE 1

BETWEEN ALL POINTS AND USA, CAN, EXCEPT AK USA.

Q U A N T I T I E S
TYPE TYPE UNIT OF ACTUAL/
SHIPMENT CHARGE RATE PER MIN MAX MEASURE BILLED NOTES
ALL 33.00 $ SHPT - WOINET

ALL 0.00 $ SHPT - WODEGN

ALL 0.00 $ SHPT - WOONET


TABLE 2

FROM ALL POINTS TO AK USA.

Q U A N T I T I E S
TYPE TYPE UNIT OF ACTUAL/
SHIPMENT CHARGE RATE PER MIN MAX MEASURE BILLED NOTES
ALL 33.00 $ SHPT - WOINET

ALL 0.00 $ SHPT - WODEGN

ALL 0.00 $ SHPT - WOONET



ISSUED BY
Vice President, Finance
10990 Roe Avenue, Overland Park, KS 66211
 
Not quite sure I understand what you’re saying....

If you are refunding the difference in freight charges when they are in the shippers favor you are removing any incentive to describe the freight accurately in the first place. If a mistake is found in favor of the carrier, then that carrier would be justified in keeping the difference as bounty for finding that mistake. It must be stressed that the shipper has certified that the weight was correct when tendering the shipment.

Or, if you prefer, sometimes the money is just gone if you make a mistake – even if you are the government. If you read that someone requires that you certify something-or-other, don’t ignore it, it’s probably important.
 
Over the course of my 20 year career with Roadway/YRC I have worked the dock in the time frame mentioned in this lawsuit. We were always told to do corrections up or down which ever way it went. The company gave us credit either way. I don’t think methods were as accurate then as they are now, but I don’t believe at least in our barn there were any attempts to hide downward corrections.
 
In my terminal we have no scales on any lift or dock scale. Previous tm said the breakbulks do the weighs and class checks. 4 years and counting. He also removed all the dock door trailer lights too. We are an eol terminal.
Take a look at page 4 of the code of conduct then ask yourself if we will see the ceo abdicate the throne.
 
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