Johnnybegood
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Wow these threads are getting brutal every Teamster from Maine to California is trying to beat us over the head with their own brand of propaganda..........
Johnnybegood said:Wow these threads are getting brutal every Teamster from Maine to California is trying to beat us over the head with their own brand of propaganda..........
Johnnybegood said:Wow these threads are getting brutal every Teamster from Maine to California is trying to beat us over the head with their own brand of propaganda..........
That may be your opinion?There are many personal experiences that do not match the rosy picture painted by these Union members on this site.I never said the things you post or other people post is a lie just a fundamental difference of opinion.By the way i think Leo was great in the past but has worn out his welcome but this does not mean we should sign a card..Do these people actually think management will be nicer to them if they do....Animo916 said:JBG,
why do you say we beat you over the head with our own brand of propaganda? Everything I have read that has been posted by a Teamster, seems to be their own personal piece of history or experience. Anything that I have posted has actually happened or been experienced by myself. Is your comment meant to imply that anything we post is lies and misinformation? or is it meant to imply that Leo's word is gospel?
Animo916 said:JBG,
why do you say we beat you over the head with our own brand of propaganda? Everything I have read that has been posted by a Teamster, seems to be their own personal piece of history or experience. Anything that I have posted has actually happened or been experienced by myself. Is your comment meant to imply that anything we post is lies and misinformation? or is it meant to imply that Leo's word is gospel?
JBG,Johnnybegood said:what i'm saying is how many of these posters are Teamsters with a agenda truthfully?Not even working for this company?It seems to me that the only right people in the minds of the posters are the ones supporting signing cards.......Well at least i think most of the posters think they are but like i always say whats on this site is just a small percentage of this company and should be looked at as a bunch of people with a Union purpose...That is to save the Union...........
"Glad",UPSF_GLAD TO BE NON-UNION said:I know I have posted in the past about stuff that happened during the last organizing attempt.
Anything I said was told to me by guys that were here at the time...not by the company.
I'm sure there was propaganda from both sides.Teamster guys responded and said that was company propaganda.
I personaly have never met with or spoken to Leo,so I can't preach his gospel.
I'm not telling you to believe anything you don't want to believe. What I am telling you is that those of us that post here are trying to answer questions as honestly as we can. We really have no personal agenda as far as what decission you and your coworkers make. What we offer is real life experiences of what things are like for us in the Teamster world, both good and bad. Trust me when I say the Teamsters are not perfect, but generally in life nothing is, and the respect and treatment UPSF employees receive from management is further from perfect than under the Teamster umbrella.So what your saying is we are to believe everything that the teamsters say as gospel....and anything anti-union is company propaganda.
What about what the company dished out?I will believe a co-worker that was here,and went through all the B.S. the teamsters dished out before I will believe a teamster that only want us to add to their numbers in an effort to make them stronger...or make it easier to organize other companies.
I have seen it posted that if the teamsters were successful in organizing UPSF that it would be easier to get the remaining LTL's to join....well I don't want to be part of that
I was here along with many others during the so called strike last time...I can tell you we had to unplug the lights on the fairings for fear someone would throw a rock off a overpass thru our windshields if they saw our lights..At a couple of times i actually feared for my safety and the safety of coworkers..Keep these things in mind.... these things are very hard to forget...UPSF_GLAD TO BE NON-UNION said:I know I have posted in the past about stuff that happened during the last organizing attempt.
Anything I said was told to me by guys that were here at the time...not by the company.
Teamster guys responded and said that was company propaganda.
I personally have never met with or spoken to Leo,so I can't preach his gospel.
So what your saying is we are to believe everything that the teamsters say as gospel....and anything anti-union is company propaganda.
I will believe a co-worker that was here,and went through all the B.S. the teamsters dished out before I will believe a teamster that only want us to add to their numbers in an effort to make them stronger...or make it easier to organize other companies.
I have seen it posted that if the teamsters were successful in organizing UPSF that it would be easier to get the remaining LTL's to join....well I don't want to be part of that.
What is wrong with making it easier to organize other LTLs? Wouldn't that in the long run add to your job security? Wouldn't it be nice if all the jobs were on an even playing field and not have to worry about some "Cheap" carrier undercutting those of us in the unionized workforce.
Get over it already, and move on!!!!!!Johnnybegood said:I was here along with many others during the so called strike last time...I can tell you we had to unplug the lights on the fairings for fear someone would throw a rock off a overpass thru our windshields if they saw our lights..At a couple of times i actually feared for my safety and the safety of coworkers..Keep these things in mind.... these things are very hard to forget...
Remember, Your Boss and Ceo of UPS has your best Interests in mind. Or maybe not!!!!Johnnybegood said:No thanks.......You move on if ya want.......