Holland | Layoffs

Bottom 6 city in Atlanta laid off...Some YRC guy just came to our terminal put up the worst bid I have seen in 15 years.
It's like we are going to be his red headed step children.
He will soon find out we ar not.
 
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So far, we've avoided layoffs in MI. They're cutting back on casuals to start, and are going to look at it
on a weekly basis. We have a group (I'm sure every terminal does) that are pushing for layoffs and the elimination of the dock only shift because of the "violation of seniority" I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I remember a time when you didn't work OT or very little, if a fellow brother was laid off.
It seems things have changed. Now, junior men shouldn't work until senior men have reached their 60 hour limit. Did I miss something in the last contract? Do we now have a 60 hour work week?
 
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I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I remember a time when you didn't work OT or very little, if a fellow brother was laid off.
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You said it! When I was bottom man on the seniority list and there was no work for me at the daily shape, there were times when one of the senior men would pass on work and go home so I could work and get a day in. Times have definitely changed and not for the better.
 
You said it! When I was bottom man on the seniority list and there was no work for me at the daily shape, there were times when one of the senior men would pass on work and go home so I could work and get a day in. Times have definitely changed and not for the better.
Yup That's what I remember too. Like anything else. You need to prove yourself to your co workers and make the cut, so to speak. But after that, barring seniority, you get the same representation as anyone else. My first union job, wasn't the norm. One of the stewards introduced himself and said as soon as I had more seniority than him, I could think about filing a grievance. The job was light years ahead of what I'd been doing, so I was just happy to be there. When that job went away in 2006, I knocked on the door at Holland. I saw some of the same thing, but not nearly what I was used to. A few of the stewards stuck their hand out, and I was in.
My memory is a little hazy but I think it was a year later or so and I had a couple of people under me and being a 10%er, we didn't work every day. I was in the break room and a senior guy walked in and absolutely torched a guy sitting there. " WHO THE FU$$ DO YOU THINK YOU ARE !!!!!! THERE ARE BROTHERS SITTING
HOME AND YOU'RE ON OT?. We weren't even technically laid off, and he lectured the break room on no OT
Unless everyone was working. But this guy was old school. Contrast that to today, and you see what I mean. I'm in the middle of the board (almost literally) so I can see both sides. Some OT is unavoidable, and face it you control OT with your right foot. But actively campaigning to get people laid off is bullship.
 
You said it! When I was bottom man on the seniority list and there was no work for me at the daily shape, there were times when one of the senior men would pass on work and go home so I could work and get a day in. Times have definitely changed and not for the better.

Explain to me what is “the daily shape” is. It must be an east coast thing as we don’t have anything like that in the Midwest.
 
Explain to me what is “the daily shape” is. It must be an east coast thing as we don’t have anything like that in the Midwest.

P&D drivers would be at the window at start time (typically 8am) and the work would be distributed by seniority. If there wasn't enough work for everyone the bottom guys might walk that day (no work). It's the way it worked in the NJ/NY metro area so I guess that makes it an east coast thing. :smile new:
 
P&D drivers would be at the window at start time (typically 8am) and the work would be distributed by seniority. If there wasn't enough work for everyone the bottom guys might walk that day (no work). It's the way it worked in the NJ/NY metro area so I guess that makes it an east coast thing. :smile new:
Did they get 2 hours pay for show up
 
MI has cut way back on casuals. Laid off 4 box truckers,laid off I think 4 in the dock to drive pipeline who had only been working the dock. Last nights bill count was over 1200, tonnage was 1.65 and change. Looking at things on a week to week basis.
 
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